Joe Rogan has also stated that he supports the use of DMT. Which i am indeed also an advocate of.
post by c.DeAD at Feb 17,2009 9:10am
That was great. I don't think I even liked Joe Rogan until he called out Menstealia, but this is just gold.
post by g nli at Feb 17,2009 9:18am
Yea he made a lot of good points (hilariously accurate too if I may add). I'm just glad theres someone out there whos a known celebrity that advocates for all of us.
Public figures generally hide their drug use so they remain viable media commodities.
Describing a law as "fucked up and corrupt" will have zero traction with Kellogg's, so he's clearly not writing for effect -- he's writing to please his audience.
It wasn't literally sent to kellogs. Its an open letter to everyone.
So they can all get touchy-feely, and think they're cool, and then do nothing?
Yeah, fuck modern society. Fuck people sitting around Finger Im Po and not coming up with realistic solutions.
It's oppression to not be able to get pot -- I agree. It's also oppression for people to demand the right to do it in all neighborhoods and all places on earth.
Houston in the 1980s was a smart place, because it created a district for all things non-mainstream -- the Montrose. True, it was also a flaming anal flaming flamboyant anal pounding gay district, but it was the one place in the city where it was nigh impossible to get busted for pot.
Think about the wisdom of that solution.
Joe Liberal can smoke his dope... great.
Joe Conservative doesn't have to have it around him... also great.
Speaking of Joes, Joe Rogan is an ego-dramatic moron.
while i do see what you are getting at, i like that write-up. he didn't do it as a serious attack, he did it as satire. everyone knows that the fight to repeal the image of marijuana is a futile effort, its a battle that has been fought for so long and it has really gotten nowhere. sure there are states that have "law" changes, but the image stays the same. the changes in law aren't making people open their eyes, the uptight douches are still uptight douches and aren't changing how they feel. might as well bring some humor to the subject. if this was written seriously and used as a way to try and change an opinion, it would be viewed exactly the same way.
post by nerdsahoy at Feb 17,2009 10:40am
^exactly. he wrote it in his usual vulgar, satirical way but hes still very serious about this subject.
Conservationist- Really? Your pointing out the futility of this statement by Mr. Rogan? You post things ALL THE TIME, things that have the same sort of "Something's wrong, and i have the solution" message, to absolutely no end. Things that you know will do nothing, and will make no real difference. But you do it anyways.. strange?
This was a great blog and I agree with just about everything he said. With that said, it's a blog post. It's someone's opinion. Take everything with a grain of salt.
My old boss went to Newton North High with Joe Rogan. Joe was the school dweeb and my boss and his friends used to kick the shit out of him. Then he started drinking his milk, and my boss is now flat broke and miserable.
I didn't bother reading the "letter to Kellogs" but I'm just going to assume Rogan rambled incoherently about sensory deprivation and how mushrooms=EVOLUTION and I got bored to fucking tears and shut off my radio. Oh wait, he wasn't on O&A?
Not me sir, i don't care how dim witted he is, he supports the need for people to explore the logos through the spiritual use of DMT. There have only been 3 famous people that i know of that have done that, Danny Carey from Tool, Dr. Tim Leary, and mr. Rogan.
Not me sir, i don't care how dim witted he is, he supports the need for people to explore the logos through the spiritual use of DMT. There have only been 3 famous people that i know of that have done that, Danny Carey from Tool, Dr. Tim Leary, and mr. Rogan.
Leary was a stronger advocate for LSD. Terence McKenna was a proponent of DMT and Psilocybin usage.
It's a naturally occurring psychedelic tryptamine, found in plants and in the human body. It induces true visions and transcendental experiences, beyond human comprehension.
Dimethyltryptamine- Arguably the most potent hallucinogen know to man. It's been used by aboriginal tribes for many many years for spirit quests. And within the past 50-ish years it's been used by frebase/injection producing mind blowingly strong effects for about 5-10minutes.
And let me clarify, yes, Terence McKenna was a huge advocate of DMT usage, but he was not exactly what i would call "famous". Anyways, Dr. Leary was most well know for LSD due to the "Harvard Incidents" But he stated frequently that DMT was his favorite.
It's the only drug that you legitimately feel BETTER the next day than you would normally. Totally energized, and bright-eyed. I have drank the tea probably 100ish times, and frebased about as frequently.
I went with Mimosa Hostilis rootbark for DMT, and Syrian Rue as an MAOI. I'm at work so I can't really give a long-winded explanation into the brewing process. Plenty of information can be gathered online.
or you can email me, and i can give you the BEST way to make it. I have posts on erowid, but they altered my amounts because they thought them too high. I post on there as "urbanshamen"
i've heard stories of people taking doses of DMT and literally "talking" to aliens and dimensional beings. some believe it as a temporary gateway to other dimensions
i've heard stories of people taking doses of DMT and literally "talking" to aliens and dimensional beings. some believe it as a temporary gateway to other dimensions
I subscribe to this belief. It allows the user to achieve what I consider to be "4th dimensional" consciousness.
Rick Strassman wrote a book ya'll should read. It's called "The Spirit Molecule". It is basically a journal by the one doctor who EVER did a government funded study using human subjects for DMT testing. It was all done IV, it was 99.999% pure DMT made in a government lab. All the people knew exactely what they were getting into, and i'll tell ya... I've done DMT more times than most anyone, but these people have the same exact type of strange communication with "machine transforming elves" or "Hyper intelligent pan-dimensional beings"... I don't really believe you shift through realities/dimensions... but it REALLY feels that way.
When it comes on strong from a big freebased hit, it's the wierdest thing you'd ever feel. your entire reality swirls into abstract art, and suddenly you can't see or feel your body, you're floating energy experiencing something you can't even comprehend. I still can't "understand" what's happens when i do it. I love it.
Well, the word Logos stems as far back as ancient Greece, and has been interpreted in different ways. McKenna, for one, describes the logos as a voice he hears during his psychedelic journey's (the "divine word"?), which ties into his concept of the "other". I don't think we can successfully describe, or place a specific name on the alien realms DMT can propel us into. Due to its highly subjective nature, I prefer the term "4th dimensional consciousness", because it defines the phenomenon in a more modern context. DMT and psychedelic's in general, prove that the mind operates like a radio. You change the station and suddenly you're experiencing a completely different channel (wave-length). I believe that esoteric forms of meditation can achieve this without the aid of a chemical or organic catalyst, but DMT can instantly facilitate the direct experience with the indescribable beyond.
post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 18,2009 7:39am edited Feb 18,2009 8:57am
I'd recommend reading Jeremy Narby's "The Cosmic Serpent" if you're more interested in Ayahuasca-based DMT consumption and shamanic ritual. The hypothesis that Narby puts forth, which makes connections between the Ayahuasca experience and molecular biology is quite intriguing. I also wish Strassman could have gone further in his experiments with DMT. I feel he was only being to scratch the surface. Hopefully MAPS will attempt more psychedelic therapies with DMT; I'm not sure what they're up to these days.
The conditioned, western mind could not exist in these altered states of consciousness 24 hours a day; they're extremely overwhelming. Eventually the lines between reality and imagination would blur and you'd most likely slip into madness. Plus, Peruvian Ayahuasquero's can consume high amounts of Ayahuasca and Tobacco that would kill a regular person.
I just wanna say, with people like me, and MikeofdecreptitudE talking about it, it seems that it would be wonderful for anyone. Which it is for most, but it's so intense that there are people who absolutely hate it. I AM an advocate of trying this substance, and even doing it frequently if you can handle it. It makes you look at your own existence in total ego-less ways that help you identify priorities/problems/and goals within your life. With all of that said though, I don't think Ayahuasca/DMT should be treated lightly.
