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New site? Maybe some day. Username: SPAM Filter: re-type this (values are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E, or F) Message: UBB enabled. HTML disabled Spam Filtering enabledIcons: (click image to insert) Show All - pop Select Color orange orange-red crimson red firebrick dark red green limegreen teal silver sea-green deeppink tomato coral purple indigo burlywood sandy brown sienna chocolate FONTXXSmallXSmallSmallMediumLargeXLXXL :DG: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Char† ‡ ‰ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ ‾ ← ↑ → ↓ ™ – —   ¡ ¢ £ ¤ ¥ ¦ § ¨ © ª « ¬ ­ ® ¯ ° ± ² ³ ´ µ ¶ · ¸ ¹ º » ¼ ½ ¾ ¿ À Á Â Ã Ä Å Æ Ç È É Ê Ë Ì Í Î Ï Ð Ñ Ò Ó Ô Õ Ö × Ø Ù Ú Û Ü Ý Þ ß à á â ã ä å æ ç è é ê ë ì í î ï ð ñ ò ó ô õ ö ÷ ø ù ú û ü ý þ ÿ b i u  add: url  image  video(?) : post by ArrowHeadNLI at 2011-03-20 13:19:15 "when we book our shows we split all the money up" My problem here is when bands book their own shows, this is usually what they do. Then that band plays for a promoter's show, and calls them greedy and shady for "stealing half the door". I NEVER would have promised out more than a third of the door to bands, with guarantees or initial payouts being considered an up front cost. Same with the Sound, club cut, etc.... SO for instance, in my above scenario with 4 bands I'm promising them $100, $75, and $50. Plus I pay my sound guy $100. And the owner wants $200. So I EXPECT to have around $600 in my pocket before I even book the show or confirm the date, so I know EVERYONE gets paid no matter the draw. NOW, I would offer the headliner 15% of door, and 10% and 5% to the other two bands, The remaining 70%? That's mine. Some people look at this as unfair, but a promoter like the Hollywood guys, as bad as they're doing it, aren't just booking ONE show. They're trying to bring heads into that bar 3 nights a week. At that point, there's a lot more work, time, and effort involved for the promoter. It's more of a job than a one-off thing, and you need money to sustain it. So that when the show BOMBS, you're not $600 in debt. You've got something in the bank from the last show that DIDN'T bomb. I think enough of us have played gigs where we failed at OUR jobs, and didn't bring anyone in. For US, it's paying dues or part of the game. But think how a show like that ends up effecting the promoter.

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